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Akhil Verghese

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140 total appearances

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The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

Honestly, meanderingly, if that's even a word, pretty much sums it up.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

I started my first machine learning projects when I was working at IBM, even though that wasn't my primary role.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

And then later on, I was with a bunch of people in San Francisco and we tried to co-found a company there.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

was an intelligent assistant for your office.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

Unfortunately, this was before the transformer paper and before large language models.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

So it was running on a technique called LSTMs and recurrent neural networks.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

And they weren't really able to keep context over large document sizes and things like that.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

So it didn't really work out that well.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

But

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

Through my time at Google, I started working towards the tail end of it on applications of AI on more complicated customer service problems.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

So not your typical like, hey, where's my order kind of thing, but actually investigating audit logs, providing conclusions, spotting security leaks, things that it was really critical not to be wrong on.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

And obviously I was trying to adopt best practices from what I could find online.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

And I just found that they weren't working that well.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

And basically I identified that

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

we almost need to rewrite the book on how we approach software engineering when it comes to building systems for these very non-deterministic things to function well in, while still preserving the elements that make them special, which is honestly the non-determinism and the fact that they're not predictable as part of, it's a feature, it's not a bug, but at the same time for enterprise systems, you need to build around that.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

And that's kind of what led to Krasmo.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

It really wasn't well planned or anything.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

It was just something that kind of came out of that

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

other companies started reaching out and asking if I could help out.

The Digital Executive
Akhil Verghese: Why AI Needs Guardrails | Ep 1263

I got Google's permission to do that and just moonlighted for a while along with my co-founder.

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