Alex Braczkowski

And God knows only how many close encounters he's had that he's survived.

So truly a special lion.

Yeah, I think there is.

And I think it's something that 95% of scientists working on any charismatic species can relate to.

And this is where it becomes kind of interesting territory because...

The longer you spend studying a particular animal, it can be an elephant, it can be a dinger, it can be a gorilla.

There is a certain attachment.

We anthropomorphize these things.

We start to see personalities, traits, behaviors that we start to sort of say, well, they're so similar to us.

But we have to be careful because in a lot of cases, you know, these animals don't have any, we don't have any policy level ownership of them.

like myself, I'm a South African, I'm certainly not a Ugandan.

And, you know, for that reason, I don't have any real say as to how those animals should be managed.

I can make some scientific studies and sort of help the government, which I'm proud to be doing.

But I cannot say anything on who should do what in terms of how these animals should or shouldn't be saved.

So that's obviously always in the back of my mind as a foreigner, you know, how do we do this in a way that's

Not going to upset the local constituency, yeah.

Yeah, I've seen big cats act kind of scary on three occasions.

Twice it was with the leopards that charged me, but that was totally warranted because we got too close.

But this particular occasion was at the end of 2017.

We were just starting the documentary on the tree climbing lions.