Alex Thomson

look instead of what actually happens or what he actually does.

So we watch very carefully on this.

Yes, there was the incident where the Americans fired on a vessel, but in American terms, in any naval terms, they fired a very, very careful and precise amount of munition into one particular area of an oil tanker, pretty much certain that they wouldn't detonate it.

So the actual action here

despite all the bluster and the kind of sometimes terrifying rhetoric that comes out of the mouth of the president of the United States, you look at what is happening.

And as you say,

Channels are still open.

Talking is still going on behind the scenes.

And the Iranians, we know, are extremely meticulous diplomats.

They come back to things again and again and again.

It is an exhausting, meticulous, long-term, painstaking, almost geological timescale.

That is the Iranian style.

It is not the style of Trump and the present White House.

Yeah, but look on the bright side.

Donald Trump's done more than Greta Thunberg ever did to convince the world that we need to move to renewables.

I'm being slightly flip on that, but you can see all that absolutely happening.

But yeah, look at the infrastructure that's been destroyed in particularly the gas refineries in the Gulf area at the hands of Iran to say nothing of what's happening in the Straits of Hormuz.

That's going to take a lot of rebuilding.

That's not going to bring the price of oil and gas down overnight, over week or over month.

So in terms of, I'm afraid, our energy prices, yeah, we're in it for a...