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Andrew Duehren

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134 total appearances

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The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

that the president had brought immediately just raised all sorts of questions about the conflict of interest inherent in such a situation where President Trump is obviously controlling the private lawyers that he hired to bring this suit against the government.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

But he is also, to a very unusual degree, controlling the lawyers who are supposed to respond to this suit.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

Yeah, I mean, it's just there are two sides to the case, but Donald Trump sits on top of both parties in this lawsuit.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

And so in that sense, while federal law does allow for people to bring these types of lawsuits against the IRS, this case raises profound questions about what the outcome would be and whether there would be a real defense of the suit and whether the Justice Department would contest what President Trump was claiming in his lawsuit against the IRS.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

Basically, given all of these tangled web of conflicts between President Trump and the Justice Department and the conflict of interest between lawyers who are working for the president in a private capacity and the lawyers who are working for him under the federal government, the judge starts to worry that this lawsuit can't proceed.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

There's a legal principle that the two sides in a lawsuit have to actually be in conflict with each other, that you can't sue yourself or sue your friend and hope to go manufacture a favorable legal ruling from a judge that will benefit both sides, that there has to be a genuine tension between the two parties in a lawsuit or else the judge has to throw it out.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

The judge can say, I can't rule on this because it's not a real lawsuit, essentially.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

And so the judge...

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

was questioning whether a real lawsuit even existed here.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

And so she asked the Justice Department and President Trump's lawyers to write briefs, they were supposed to be due today, explaining themselves and telling her, are you actually fighting with each other or is this kind of all a charade and you have filed this lawsuit essentially under false pretenses, in which case the judge could have dismissed it.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

And she was indicating that she was certainly considering

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

just throwing it out entirely.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

Yeah, yes.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

And the Justice Department was going to have to explain that.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

And doing so would have potentially been very awkward because for them to say that this lawsuit should exist, they would have had to show their face in this case and say, here I am to oppose the president's claims, which people at the Justice Department, especially this Justice Department, didn't want to do.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

Yes, exactly.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

And so folks within the administration were working feverishly last week to avoid that scenario and to avoid potentially embarrassing ruling from the judge.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

And what they arrived at was that President Trump would drop his lawsuit entirely.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

And in exchange, the Justice Department would create this unprecedented, gigantic pot of taxpayer money that the Justice Department will control to compensate victims of, quote unquote, weaponization.

The Daily
Trump’s Taxpayer-Funded Plan

Yeah, so we don't know everything yet, but what we do know is that this will be $1,776,000,000.