Baroness Louise Casey

And somehow what was completely obvious to anyone is you have to have a common language in society.

Everybody has to be able to go to the GP on their own and not have somebody mind them and be able to say to their doctor, this bruising, you can't see, but if I show you, you will be able to see it.

It's been done by my husband.

And they have to be able to do that in a common language.

And so the things that were obvious at the time that I think would have been protective factors, we didn't move on.

And I wish we had.

Because she could create some sort of nightmare.

She could just literally faint and I'll run over and do CPR.

I'm still a first aider, so if anybody needs help, get me out now.

No, you can't print it off and leave, particularly if you care about it, and it's an important public policy area, you shouldn't.

The second thing, though, that I find interesting is you have to get the recommendations so people can hear them.

And I think when we did the integration review about extremism, I've wondered in retrospect whether perhaps we should have thought at the final furlong...

Like maybe we should have thought about what recommendations they could have heard and do something about.

So I think I'm very conscious of that.

So I was beside myself about the grooming gangs because of the decade.

And I realized that I had to really calibrate it so that it was very clear.

That's partly why some of these later reports are so bloody long.

I mean, the audit isn't an audit.

It's like, I don't know, it's at least 200 pages and it's got so much evidence in it.

That's the other trick.