Brett Adcock

We do model development here ourselves.

You know, like we're advancing all of us ourselves and it just wasn't the perception from the outside.

It was just hard.

So that also wasn't helpful for us.

Both hiring was not great.

And we were like, you know, there was like an information passing back that I think wasn't really helpful for us long-term if we're going to be competitors.

So we decided to split ways.

I decided specifically to split ways.

But they have a great team.

I think they're doing robotics now internally.

Sounds like it.

Yeah, exactly.

I was like, I got a call saying like, yeah, like, you know, partly like, the part of the feedback I heard was like, we've made so much progress at Figure and they've seen that, that they were, you know, OpenAI started out as a robotics program.

They were trying to solve AGI through robotics.

First three, four years, they were just like all in on robots.

If you Google like OpenAI robotics, it's like old 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, like...

you know, maybe like 2019, 2020, something like that.

They end up pivoting into like large language models, maybe 2021, something like this.

But they're in robotics from, I think, 2016, 2017 for like many years, maybe three or four years, trying to solve like AGI through robotics.

There's, you know, there's this other, we don't need to get into it, but like it's, you know, it's unclear if you need an embodiment or not, or, you know, at the time it was unclear whether you need an embodiment or not to like truly get to like above like peak human intelligence.