Brian Levine

And I remember we talked to him, and I said to him, look, we created a spreadsheet or a diagram to show this.

And I said, like, you know, look, if there were five overlaps in vacations, that would be curious.

If there were 10, hmm, something's going wrong here.

But with 30, you are the guy.

You are a mighty SA.

And I gotta say, the most important, I guess at the end of the day for the jury, the most important piece of evidence

came from the fact that Danette, when he was cooperating, told us everybody else who worked with the Bayrob group.

And Stacey, you know, we talked with Stacey and Ryan, and we decided that there was not enough evidence to indict any of those people, because we couldn't just indict them based on one criminal saying, these are the guys, because, you know, the jury's not necessarily going to believe a criminal.

So Stacey said to me, well, why don't we just go over to Romania and talk to them and try and get them to testify?

And I said, well, why would they come to the United States, risk being arrested to testify when we don't have any evidence against them?

And Stacey brought up the good point.

They don't know we don't have any evidence.

against them so stacy and i went back to romania right before trial and we ended up flipping what was it five out of six yeah all three of us went back and we we flipped five out of six of them five out of six and they agreed to come to cleveland and testify at trial and what's in it for them

And they have to have had a significant role too.

We're not going to just necessarily indict everybody who did anything.

And so basically we talked to these people individually and they believed that cooperating was in their best interest.

And a lot of them felt really bad about what,

A lot of them had moved on at this point.

It took so long to do this case.

A lot of them now had kids and had a regular job and were, like, so embarrassed.