Buck Sexton

It's a whole...

a series of behavioralism training, but conditional reflex.

But here's what Pavlov learned that was really interesting, Glenn.

There was a, it was at the time, it was Leningrad, St.

Petersburg, they've changed name a bunch of times, but there was a flood at his lab and the dogs in the lab almost drowned.

And it was one of these things where the water was rising, the water was rising, these dogs... I'm a huge dog person, so I get upset just thinking about this.

But the dogs were freaking out and freaking out.

The lab technician, not Pavlov, got there, freed the dogs last minute, and they had...

not only a complete erasure of the conditioning that they had had because of this trauma, they also had extreme behavioral changes apart from that, meaning some that were docile became aggressive, some that were aggressive became docile.

So this set this light off.

And you know who thought it was really interesting that there was this new series of behavioralism training going on?

Lenin himself.

Lenin.

Yeah.

Stalin, the Soviets.

And they started paying very close attention to this.

And they came up with, Glenn, some step by step and some here's how you do it.

And that's a lot of the meat of the book is looking into those practices, you know, isolation, keeping people confused, keeping people frack atomized in society.

There's all these different things.

I mean, how do you get out of this?