Clas Svahn

Interesting.

Super strange.

Did she speculate as to who they were, where they were from at all?

I mean, she started to read about UFOs, and nowadays she's over 70 years of age, and she looks at YouTube and whatever.

But she asked me what I thought, and I said to her, this is for me a typical encounter with strange beings, because it's not typical.

You're right.

So they are so different, so diverse.

So it's typical for things to be unable to categorize.

Yeah, for me, if you really take a look at all of the spectrum, you will find that.

That's what Jacques Vallée, you know, John Keel, a lot of these UFO researchers, once you get past a certain point...

You get into this idea that the phenomena conceals itself with this absurdity element that is injected into every experience.

Absurdity is the word, you know.

That's a key word.

It's really absurd.

And so it's so absurd that it pre-stigmatizes itself.

Like the story you just told me of men in a garbage pile seemingly doing the most low-tech thing, wearing the most high-tech suits, teleporting from can to can or whatever.

It sounds insane, but I'm sure that happened, you know?

And so that seems to be this very common theme, this trickster element.

Do you think that that's...

at play here this this idea that um the phenomena almost wants to cover itself in a way in a way i agree with you because there are so many high strangeness cases so the other ones you say oh this is the typically whitley streber alien they're not very common here in sweden you can get them