Dr. Alan O'Sullivan

I think it's entitled, What Will 2025 Be Remembered For?

And you're talking about catalysts.

And we talk about, we think of 9-11 and we think, okay, that's an obvious catalyst.

But maybe it was something else, which you'll talk about.

And in 2008, the financial crisis, but perhaps it was something else.

So can you maybe explore some of that?

I suppose for you then, Louis, and correct me if I'm wrong, the most important thing, is it the rollback withdrawal of the U.S.?

Is it the removal of U.S.

exceptionalism?

I know two of those aren't the same thing, but they're obviously linked.

I mean, U.S.

exceptionalism was obvious between 2010 and 2020, disinflationary forces, all that stuff.

But if we're talking about...

a withdrawal, a closing of the U.S.

security umbrella, and as you say, mineral rights for support.

Is that also tied in with this decline in U.S.

exceptionism?

Is that intrinsically linked?

I mean, there is evidence in what you're saying.

Most recently, there's a lot of kind of strange things happening.