Dr. Amalia Scannell

Not all of us, but a large number of us in the population, that would be true.

And this has been going on for quite some time.

So back into the 2009, so the start of this whole century situation, a guy in Brazil called Carlos Monteiro noticed that in Brazil, hunger was going down, but diabetes was going up.

And he was trying to work out what the hell was going on with that.

And ultimately...

discovered that a lot of people were eating a lot of food, but not a lot of nourishment.

And he grouped the foods into four different categories.

So you have the unprocessed foods, so you know, your meat and two veg kind of dinners.

Then your processed ingredients, so oils and butters, the things where we have natural foods that we do something to, so it will work for us in a product or last longer.

And then you have the processed foods like breads and things,

And finally, the last group, which is the ultra-processed foods.

And these are trickier ones because they're very tasty.

So they're full of sugar and they're full of salt.

And they're very, I don't want to use the word addictive, but we all really love these things like crisps, things like pizzas, ready meals.

They're full of flavor.

And what they're not full of is, a lot of the time, whole ingredients.

So you have extraction ingredients.

So you'll have modified starches,

chemicals, emulsifiers and things like that added in.

And there's nothing wrong with them.