Dr. Eric Haseltine

The only way a wormhole works is if you have that in the middle to keep things from collapsing.

So again, and in our book, The Shadow of Time, we explore this as a kind of a plot point, you know, and...

So that's the kind of thing that I find kind of exciting.

And here's kind of what I think is going to happen.

Someone's going to keep looking at that and they won't find that.

That'll turn out not to be possible or not to be true, but they'll discover something else.

And this is why the study of UFOs is so important.

You know, if we don't make any other point, I want to make this point that in all of science,

the biggest discoveries are by definition those we don't expect.

And why is that?

You know, if I ask you to imagine a color you've never seen before, it's really hard to do, right?

But if you saw it, you could recognize it.

And because when we imagine something, we have to do it from the building blocks of our experience.

If we have no experience, we can't imagine it.

But if we put ourself in a position to observe something new, we may see something we could never have imagined.

And that's where the biggest breakthroughs almost always come from.

I set out to do A.

I looked while I was doing it in my peripheral vision and I saw B and I go, ooh, that's more interesting.

And I think the reason for people to really get serious about studying what's going on here is we're going to see B, C, D, and E. We shoot for the stars, you land on the moon, and the moon's pretty cool.

You land somewhere unexpected.