Dr. Genevieve von Petzinger

So this is where all of the inventories, and this is where I would argue that half of our problem is that

We were working under the assumption that Neanderthals did not make art.

Therefore, everything has been assigned to modern humans by default, whether it makes sense or not.

And so now our job is to start pulling that back apart and figuring out based on age, motifs, etc.

Is there a Neanderthal tradition of art that is distinctly theirs?

I think there is.

You could literally go stand in front of that panel.

That's why I say if you can go, go.

Because like I'm... Again, they're doing... They monitor the cave very closely.

Like they have CO2 monitors and stuff throughout the cave.

Because the thing you have to worry about is people breathing in it too much and triggering the growth of like fungi and stuff.

However, because it's such a big cave...

it has more tolerance, right?

It's more like when you're in the little ones, you have to be really careful because just two people breathing in there can make a big difference.

So this one's a good cave that way.

One of the things I just wanted to flag too is that there is a 70,000 year artifact that came out of the front layers, which is a little, speaking of bones and stones, it's a little flat stone.

It's actually in the museum at Santander.

So if you're going to

That area, Santander is the capital and the museum's there.

It's got four engraved cupels, which are basically engraved dots in a row with one more either above or below in an orientation.