Ellyse Perry

But I always bring it back to like, and so what?

Like if we lose this World Cup, so what?

Yeah.

Like, I mean, I really want to win it and it's going to hurt if we don't.

I just don't think it affects me on a fundamental human level.

Yeah.

I mean, if we lost and I was an absolute dirtbag in a terrible sport, it probably would.

But losing because someone's better or you made a mistake or you just weren't as good as you wanted to be, like that's just a lesson.

But it's the same thing, like, on a bigger scale, obviously, but most people who watch a World Cup final don't wake up the next morning, like, or, you know, for the next week thinking about it.

Life goes on.

that you think that about me.

No, that doesn't really bother me.

No, it doesn't bother me, but it would really bother me if that's what I thought of myself.

I really like that way of framing it.

Yeah, the other way I've kind of heard it is like,

When someone asks who you are, like, it's just I am.

Full stop.

Which is pretty hard to, like, stop yourself there.

But, yeah, I mean...

That's so much of that is just a feeling within yourself as well.