Fiona Hill

It's certainly not on, and also on Europeans, you know, kind of not acting quick enough and, you know, not from, you know, building up because it's not been for the want of the Ukrainians, you know, fighting back to, you know, really defend themselves.

I mean, again, it's remarkable, you know,

where we are in this conflict.

You yourself have said that despite the fact it seems that the Russians have made huge progress, they really haven't in the larger scheme of things.

It's supposed to be a small special military operation, a small in duration, and it's now gone on longer than the Soviet Union was fighting Nazi Germany in World War II with colossal casualties, as you've said, on the Russian side, not just on the Ukrainian side.

Well, that's actually...

Reasonably far.

I don't know.

It depends on where we started.

But anyway, it's just it's I mean, the problem here is that this could have gone in a different direction if there'd been a unified approach to this.

But, you know, Trump has been desperately trying to get rid of it all the time.

He wanted to have his own separate relationship with Putin.

He's never wanted anything to do with this.

You know, he's wanted to sit down with Putin to do arms control agreements, all kinds of things.

And the tragedy of all of this is he's probably made the world even more insecure than it was before.

He didn't really have any.

I mean, that was also a fabrication.

But that's kind of what Trump blames him for.

He blames him for the phone call.

It was Trump's phone call, basically.