Fiona Hill

Personally, I mean, I'd never thought they should have had that phone call and I left recommending there was no phone call scheduled.

I had no idea that that was how it was going to go, but I didn't think it was going to be a good phone call anyway because Trump was so antagonistic towards Zelensky and the Ukrainians.

and he remains antagonistic towards them.

But I do think, though, just to be very clear here, and you aren't called the bulwark.

There is the ability to do things.

I think Mark Carney's laid it out there.

I mean, he's basically telling everybody, time to rally, time to get real, time to do something, and here's a ways forward.

There's all kinds of ways in which people are stepping up right now to just say, look, we need to do something different.

We do need members of Congress to get their act together.

And on the Republican side, absolutely.

It can't just be people on the streets of Minnesota or anybody else trying to just say this is wrong.

I mean, we have to use every platform, as Mark Carney has just done, that we possibly can have in Davos.

But we have to actually take some action.

And I think, you know, at the state level, mayors, governors, you know, anybody who can and has a platform and an ability to act, they've got to do that.

Because I personally think America is better than this.

You know, I came here in 1989 as the, I was literally, you know, in my first month in the United States, the Berlin Wall came down my first couple of months.

And I still think that, you know, the ability to do things better is there.

And it's certainly here in America.

But it's not there if we all are enthralled to one guy who's clearly lost the plot.

Yeah, thanks a lot.