Frank McNamara

Well, I mean, I just think that, I mean...

The population has gone up so much.

The problem is that the wildlife acts are quite broadly worded.

So a whole load of bird species are covered within it.

And I think a few of those species, like the common seagull, the population is so great

that i think protecting it is unnecessary and is actually causing more harm than good as you described there in in galway recently where seagulls are attacking people going to and from a hospital you know it's just um we have to do something about it because the population's gone up so much because there's no natural predators to bring the population down and seagulls thrive in like urban environments like we like now when we have like throwaway sandwiches and pastries all over the

They are huge.

A cull.

I think a cull, well, under the current acts, they're protected, so that wouldn't be doable.

I think there's a more humane way to deal with the population.

Scare them off.

Yeah, I think scaring them off, to my mind, would solve the problem, really.

No, I think Cullingwood might be a bit OTT.

The issue is that like from a distance, they look fine.

So if they're like out in the sea and they're little white specks, they look like nice little birds.

But when they're up close to the size of a dog, like, you know, they're as big as a small dog.

And they're huge.

Yeah.

And they're they are quite they're very aggressive birds and they have no fear in jumping up to a human and coming right up to you and waiting for you to slip up, you know, and they see their chance.