Freya India

So if you've got these people who are subject to those incentive structures, and incentives are the most powerful force in human behavior that has ever existed.

you end up in a very bad place very quickly.

And I think that's where we are.

So what's the answer to all this, Freya?

What do we do?

Well, you do know.

I mean, you give some ideas in the book, right?

It was a different thing.

This is what I'm saying.

It's like Facebook in those days was you and your friends from school, with my experience, and your family.

And you'd go, of course, well, I want to show my friends and family where I went on holiday.

That's fine.

That is not what Facebook is now.

Do you support, I mean, there are countries that are already doing this and a lot of countries that are talking about banning under 16s from social media.

You're literally the first person in the history of the show that has said that thing, which is totally true.

Because actually that's the biggest thing of any policy is like, you know what you're getting.

positively, what are you getting negatively that you haven't thought about?

And for parents as well, it's like, you know, we talk all this because we're in this world of culture and politics and whatever.

We talk all the time about policy.

And because of that, we neglect the fact that your child doesn't have to be banned from social media by the government.