Gabby Logan

Is that where the inspiration tends to come?

Or can you write a poem on the underground?

I can write a poem anywhere.

Do you read a lot of other people's poetry?

I see quite a few of them on social media.

They deliver it brilliantly, don't they?

Do you share them with your sons?

This is good advice.

But you have such sweet, mellifluous tones.

I can't imagine them turning into something, you know, a little bit sterner.

You can scream when somebody has...

It's that thing about taking a moment, isn't it?

Taking a minute before you respond to something.

Why am I getting angry here?

Choosing the, you know, which is definitely not something that I felt I was very successful at in my, maybe my 30s.

But as I got into my 40s, I think I got better at it.

But as you say, it's that conscious conversation.

Algebra you might never use.

That thing, they call it different things in different parts of the country, PSE or it's like personal social development skills and those kinds of things.

And I used to say to my kids, well, what did you do in it today?