Gabby Logan

Because I'm kind of curious to what they're actually... Also, I need to learn that.

Yeah.

It never, yeah, they did touch on kind of, you know, mental health and things, but never, it was never kind of really.

Never got to it.

The point where it was a lot of stuff about kind of sexual kind of etiquette and behaviours and which is very important.

But yeah, you're right.

That kind of EQ, I suppose, in a way, isn't it?

Learning all those things for yourself, your own kind of EQ.

Yeah.

And I think you could do a lot worse than pick up one of Donna's books and open it up.

And if you read one of her poems to yourself or out loud, then I think that would be a very good way to start unpicking.

Donna, you are an absolute force.

It's amazing to have you on the podcast.

Thank you so, so much for being so generous in reading that beautiful poem, Warrior.

And also just for continuing to deliver such positivity and optimism as you do to the world.

optimism i cannot wait to hear oh thank you so much for having me and you'll be the first person that i tell when i'm allowed to um you say it on social media yeah and and then we can all find out it's been a joy what a joy to be here thank you thank you and now fly yourself back to that beautiful place

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