George Mack

Being less valuable than it was before.

Roughly.

Exactly.

And I think generally today it's possible to build that type of device without having this ecosystem effect.

Yeah.

that was necessary in the past.

At some point, it's like, it's a slab of glass and a combination of things.

Like, what do you do?

You know, there's a group of people that think that Apple's like the smartest company because they've let the world sort of play itself out, people spending a lot of money, and they're just waiting to see where it hits and then effectively do what they do best, which is never enter the market first, right?

Yeah.

But be the best.

Yeah, yeah.

never spent anything like go forth and split test these products for us my minions yeah exactly it's a ton of other companies they effectively let others do the R&D work to a certain extent and then refine that world potentially and you know there's an argument to be made that is a

Have you guys ever... That's incredible.

But what a great... I mean, I never leave my house without my AirPods.

This is why I think it's... Such a power user.

It's ridiculous.

I mean, there's rumor that the next AirPods, like you said, do have visual cameras.

And that's crazy.

If you think about it, you're walking around and there's sort of two spatially aware cameras around you.