Georgie

No, it wasn't.

And he's like, it was.

um we met him the late late show that i did the first time um before covet and then we met him the second time when we were both on the late late show coming towards the end of covet we met him both of those times in the dressing room before we went on went out did the interview went into the green room you know the whole shebang

And you said the second time we met him, which was coming to the end of his reign, you said there is something different about Ryan this time.

And he has spoken so many times about that that was the exact feeling he had, that he just didn't have, not to put words in his mouth, but the gist that I'm getting is the passion for it anymore.

Or he wanted to do something different.

He wanted to challenge himself in a different way.

And there must be so many people listening to this podcast that feel that in their heart and soul, that they're not...

And there's so many people in the Good Globe community with really big jobs.

And to step out of the machine, you know, especially when you're on the top, has to be a scary thing to face and to follow through, to even admit it to yourself.

So it's interesting because I didn't pick up on that at all that time on The Late Late, but you did.

step out of it okay they could be you know there's barristers there's solicitors there's CEOs, COOs, finance people like and they're just burnt out completely and like Ryan to step out when you're at the top and to step out and do something else

For example, you walking around with your cap on backwards to walk out of here every morning, you know, efficiently in dress to the absolute nines going off to your corporate job.

And now there is a slower pace of life.

And I'm not going to sugarcoat that at times that has to be difficult for people.

It has to be difficult.

Yeah, and that's such a good point.

So many people are fully fulfilled and have found their purpose in their corporate job.

It's no shade to people in the corporate world.

It's the ecosystem that makes the world go round, right?