Gerard Waitley

And I had a little bit to them a few weeks ago.

They're sort of getting good at everything at one stage.

They're starting to build a good defensive profile, good ball movement.

Stoppages look pretty good.

But I think they're just eighth at everything, which is fine if you can start to work towards being top six at everything.

But at the moment it just feels a bit flat with, you know, it's not the Ross line, um,

build our game off defence style, is it?

What are you seeing with that?

So what's the overlaying week to week to week to week other than let's beat Hawthorne through the corridor or let's do this strategy?

So that's the look for the back half of the season.

I think the Saints supporters have seen some positivity this year.

The more I talk to them, the more they're sort of happy with how things are going.

But what does success look like for St Kilda this year?

What do you think success looks like?

Okay.

I don't think they're going to be there.

So if they don't make that, is it a failure?

If they don't make the top 10?

So just a basic stat, time and forward half.

It's sort of a, you know, anyone knows what that feels and looks like.