Hayley Vernon

to having exponential amounts of money hitting my account that I could never have fathomed.

So it's great at the start, but everything comes at a cost.

It comes at a cost, and it comes at a cost personally.

You lose yourself.

You end up losing your identity.

You become so de-attached from the normal world that, like I said, you just –

you forget the value of a dollar and it doesn't last.

The trajectory is so steep and so fast and it comes down quite quickly as well.

Now, like I said, I was on the other end of the scale.

So that's not your average kind of creator.

Now,

Stefano is in a position where I don't know his whole story, but just say, for instance, he's going for PR, they're going to do background checks, or I don't know what his case is, or let's talk about the average woman or the average male that is on the platform as well.

They go in, they go in hard and fast, they get money that they haven't had before, then they start having all these problems.

They might start drinking to deal with

what's actually going on, you know, because they've been forced into a position that they generally don't want to go in.

And I'm not saying that everyone has substance abuse issues, but then that comes crashing down.

You then have to step back into the public eye.

Now, I have had conversations with you before, Joshua.

I was like, no, that's okay.

Like, I'm, and this is going to sound so big headed, but this is what I actually thought.