Henry Paker

Yeah.

I just like the fact that with drawing, and I suppose more like writing as well, you can sort of do it at your own pace, at your own schedule.

Whereas whenever I've been anywhere near a TV set or a film set,

There's something about all those people, all those thick, chunky wires along the floor.

And all those people carrying really heavy objects around.

Do you want to get up at 5am and get into a car and travel somewhere?

We'll be nodding away.

I heard an interview with Michael Caine the other day, and he said that he's finally given up acting.

I think he's 90.

See, he's podding now.

He's podding.

Well, let's check his chart position.

Well, actually, a bit of an exclusive here.

As of next week, it's actually going to be four beans, Sam.

Not for long, Sam.

One of you is getting knocked out.

but um what he was saying was now i've spent my whole life acting getting up at 5 30 whatever and yeah but now i'm writing so you're writing now he says the great thing about writing is you can you don't have to get out of bed and you can do it with a pencil but it feels like he's made that discovery as well he's not actually he's not podcasting but like yeah why if you can do something at home to do it the pencil bit wasn't a massive insight

No, probably not.

I don't know if you're supposed to write in bed.

Yeah, so we've got a script, right?