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Ivan McClellan

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
146 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

So I saved up $500 that summer, and I just upped and moved to New York City.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

And that money was gone in a week.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

And I just like worked any job that I could get.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

I didn't know anybody.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

So I like handed out flyers.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

I blew up balloons.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

I played guitar in the park.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

Anything I could do for money.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

Until some way, through a bunch of luck, I got a job as a photographer and a junior designer at an ad agency.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

I didn't know anything that anybody was talking about.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

They would say ROI, SEO, KPIs, and I would just nod my head and Google what they had said.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

And I did that long enough that I actually started to get pretty good at my job, and I got promoted.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

I went from junior designer to designer, and I went from designer to senior designer, and from senior designer to art director.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

Every time that I got promoted, I saw fewer and fewer black people around.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

until I got a job as a creative director, I moved to Portland, Oregon, and I hardly ever saw black people at all.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

I was in this sea of white men at work, and I was never a culture fit.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

I understood their culture, but they had no clue who Luther Vandross was.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

Or they had never stayed up till 2 AM watching Showtime at the Apollo.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

They had no idea why I might be afraid of dogs.

The Moth
You Can't Go Back: The Moth Radio Hour

This led to a case of imposter syndrome.