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Jack Clark

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352 total appearances

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Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Yes.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Well, one, I think, again, if you do the time thing, it doesn't seem wild that by April 2027, AI systems should be able to do tasks that might take a person 150 hours.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

No, what is that?

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

That's almost a month's worth of work, which requires strange things to happen in the economy.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Yeah, but what task is it doing?

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

What task are you thinking of?

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

What's the last bit of work that took you a month?

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Yeah, so tasks like this Yeah, um, no, I mean tasks that might take a person a really really long time might be Designing a complicated piece of circuitry doing a very very involved research project involving reading and cross-referencing many things building a piece of software the kinds of tasks which we currently pay

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

extremely talented people, large amounts of money to do are exactly the type of tasks which AI systems are kind of creeping into.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

So that has some implications.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Yeah.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

The other prediction we made was, you know, we've talked about how the majority of the code at Anthropic is written by AI systems like Claude.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Well, all of us in the room thought by April, maybe 100% of the code is, which led to us say, what are we doing?

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

And I think that we invented a guild system where we would sit around analyzing and critiquing the code that Claude writes and verifying that it's correct.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

And I can't work out if this is like a really fun country club style job or if it paints some different picture.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Right.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

You're going to tell me.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

Where, do you do that?

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

I find myself staring into the face of change that we haven't experienced in perhaps a century.

Planet Money
Live: Anthropic co-founder on AI and jobs

And I don't know how we'll respond.