Jacob Savage

It happened in foundations.

It happened in advertising.

It happened in corporate America.

I think it happened in tech.

It happened in a lot of those to a lesser extent than it happened in media, academia and Hollywood.

But I think it happened in any

sort of liberal, but when I say liberal, I don't mean, you know, it could be in the heart of Texas, but if it's like a Fortune 500 company, they're still gonna, you know, face those pressures.

What happened to anyone who sort of worked within liberal America, I think?

Are we done with it?

Has it peaked?

I think there's still, there's still,

I don't think we're done with it.

Every once in a while, there's an article, and I think the New York Times has gotten a lot better than it was four or five years ago, but every once in a while, there's still an article that pretends it's 2019 again, and you wonder if they're just sort of biding their time.

For example, a month ago, I saw an article about how there aren't enough

cardiothoracic surgeons who are women.

And you read the article and basically this is a specialty that requires people to be on call 70, 80 hours a week.

and most, you know, it also requires a high level of competence.

Most highly competent female doctors, I think, quite reasonably, probably want a family and don't want to work 80 hours a week.

The idea that that could be the explanation for this gender gap just never came up in the article.

And I think that's sort of part, you know,