Jacob Savage

My wife is a costume designer.

No one is ever like, we need to make this industry more male.

It only ever goes the other way.

I do think that academia, I get sent tips all the time.

Academia is still doing this in hiring.

They're doing it at a sort of lesser grade.

I think media is in the process of self-correcting a little bit, you know, because it is like a sort of free market and eventually it catches up with you.

But I think academia is the one that, like, I'm not sure that they ever stop.

So let me talk to you about people, let's say my age or look like me.

I think there, I mean, obviously there are ways to get around it.

I'm not the only, I'm not, there's not a single, there are white men my age who've made it in Hollywood or media or even academia.

I think that the,

what happened i mean i think that what happened and what people the illusion people are under is that actually they just uh the top five percent of white guys will still get through i don't think that's true maybe five percent of white guys total will get through but a lot of that again is luck and where you are at a point and um you know i i i think that the issue as i see it is a lot of

The more talented white men my age saw that, you know, if you were smarter than I was in 2016, you saw the writing on the wall and you didn't even try.

You just got into crypto or podcasting or something else.

And, you know, you're living a probably pretty good life and life is OK.

I think the issue and I think you can and you should pull yourself up, you know, and you shouldn't wallow in your own self-complaint.

I think that what happened very specifically was that no one told us that it would have been easier if there had been a quota.

If they had just announced in 2014, from now on, it's 7%.

And the rest of you are out of luck.