James Barry

Absolutely.

I mean, like, I think even back to kind of the linchpin for me of what moves me towards rethinking health.

So I was just out of college.

I was an actor then.

And so I had booked this, it's called the Williamstown Theater Festival in Massachusetts.

It's a pretty well-known theater festival.

And I flew from California to Massachusetts, didn't know anyone.

And I was there a week and I started experiencing this extreme pain and I didn't know what was going on.

I thought it would, maybe it was an appendicitis.

Right.

But I was crumpled in the corner and my roommate slash new friend was like, dude, I think something's wrong.

Like you've been here an hour.

Like you need to go to the hospital.

And I was like, I was so scared.

I was like, I don't, I, okay.

I just, I think I was in so much pain at that point.

I was like, yeah, just I'll do whatever you tell me.

Right.

We get there.

They still don't know what it is, but they give me, uh, they, they give me, um, you know, something for the pain.