Janice Gross-Stein
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And that would probably be enough for Donald Trump.
But
You know, it really is telling Ruddard how strongly they feel about that program and how they take enrichment, the right to enrichment, off the table relentlessly.
And this has been the story for, frankly, the last 20 years on and off, except the period when we had the Obama Agreement.
So it taps a nerve inside Iran.
And we could speculate why, but it really does.
So if you think about this, if this race stays closed another three weeks when the summer season finally starts and people start taking vacations, it's going to hit home.
because gas at the pump will be higher.
Flights are going to be canceled because of jet fuel.
People are really going to start to feel it at the public level.
And we are at the point, Rudyard, if there's not an agreement very quickly, there is a real possibility of tipping into a global recession.
We've missed the spring planting season in much of the global south.
That one's gone already.
And so the consequences of this are getting much more serious as the two parties are digging in.
That's not a good story, frankly.
Yeah, I think that's exactly right, Rudyard.
You have in both places, in Iran and in the United States, the sense that time is in their favor, right?
Each side feels time is in their favor and therefore no urgency to get this done.
Paradoxically, all the pressure that Donald Trump is under, and I think he is under pressure from his own party,
And the midterm says, and that's real.