Janice Gross-Stein

Well, you can never rule it out, Richard.

And you can't rule out military action.

And I don't believe you can bomb your way out of this, either side.

You really cannot.

You know, I've been saying for...

Two months now, the only way out is some kind of negotiated solution.

You cannot bomb your way out of this.

And does that mean that one or the other won't try?

Just for the reason that you mentioned, Roger, this is lose-lose.

Both sides are losing.

Iran is, believe it or not, a big loser.

It's a loser in its relationship with the Gulf.

It's losing in terms of its capacity to restructure an economy, its oil fields.

are on the verge of experiencing significant damage.

I don't have to tell you why the United States is losing.

So what do you do sometimes?

The worst possible thing, you're frustrated, you lash out in order to break the stalemate.

And nobody knows, in all honesty, I don't think, anybody that tells you they know, don't believe, because you have to get inside Donald Trump's head, and who can do that?

And even more opaque and more difficult

is to get inside now of Vahidi's head, inside Tara, and understand what kind of calculation he'll make.