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Jason Wilk

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
266 total appearances

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

Well, I think where we're really helping consumers with AI is around just better access to credit.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

So we really pioneered back in 2017 using customers' cash flow information to underwrite them for credit.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

Typically, banks are charging you a $34 fee for overdraft.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

Very unintelligent approach.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

Charge every customer the same fee, regardless of how much you overdraft your account.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

And so using the cash flow information gave customers who didn't have a high credit score or thin follow credit score the benefit to be approved just by the virtue of their paycheck and how much income and the solvency they have between paychecks.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

So carry that forward several years, we started to introduce AI as another way to analyze all this transaction data.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

Because we're starting to generate billions and billions of consumer data points around how much they get paid, their employer, ATMs they go to.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

There's so many data points now.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

We have hundreds of features on our models, which we call cash AI, which helps customers get approved for credit.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

And we've seen loss rates now get down to nearly 1% with our own proprietary model that doesn't use FICO scores at all.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

That's been a really exciting thing that we've really pushed the needle on and we could not have not have done that without AI.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

Well, I think about Dave at our launch, our loss rate was 10% to 20% back when we were just using a basic rules-based model.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

And the average size of our micro loans effectively was $50.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

Now we have 1% loss rate with average loan size of over 200.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

So 4x the origination size and 90% better on the loss rate side.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

There are so many, to be honest.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

But honestly, even just depending on where you bank, the types of merchants, the time at which you can buy food, like all these things can be really interesting inputs into your default behavior.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

I can't say there's an exact feature of the model, but that could be something you could input into an AI model at the company.

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How to Survive a Stock Collapse: What Founders Get Wrong About Going Public | Dave CEO Jason Wilk

I mean, other than just every time we ship new features in the model, it's gotten consistently better and better.