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Jill Lepore

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99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

And New York would be like, we have three things in here.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

We will not sign this unless these are out.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

Immediately what happened, and there's only 13 states, but they all were like,

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

We have some requests.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

And so it was immediately a political problem of ratification was the possibility of amendment because a bunch of states said, well, like New Hampshire was like, we're not even going to vote because we can't even.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

But Massachusetts and Maryland were like, we'll ratify it only if you promise to add these 13 amendments that we're going to officially send to you.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

So then all the states were like, oh, you mean we can we can actually add amendments?

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

And the Federalists kept going out there with like their whole spin on the thing was.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

ratify first, amend later.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

Like they're like, you picture the cheerleader, ratify first, amend later.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

Like this is their chant, ratify first, amend later.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

Like we just got to ratify the thing.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

But two states say we actually need a second constitutional convention because there've been over 200 amendments proposed in the state ratifying convention.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

So finally the federalists win the argument and they promise, they promise, they promise like

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

Cross my heart and hope to die.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

The first thing we'll do, if you guys agree to ratify this, is we will amend it in Congress.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

We'll hold a special session.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

We'll look at all the amendments that were proposed in the states and we'll we'll send amendments back to the states.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

So that's and that's the only reason we even have this Constitution, because eventually the states are like, OK, that seems fine.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

Yeah.