Jimmy

The thing that stands out for me from that, so it was the leadership group of that group, the game IQ just seemed to be at another level to the opposition.

I just, you had all the, some of the best leaders to have played the game and players.

What about fast forwarding two years to the, I think it was the Lions series, um,

Yeah.

It is what it is.

How long did that sit with you, that last decision?

Yeah.

You know, so.

Do you wish, at the time, did you wish it was going to extra time?

Is that where your mind was at?

Yeah.

Yeah.

the scrutiny, the social media, all those side of things.

I guess social media would have grown throughout your career, but all those things.

How did you handle it all as a captain?

Definitely can.

And I guess leading into 2019 World Cup, so your third World Cup in Japan, obviously didn't end the way that you wanted it to.

How do you remember that game or that tournament?

And they've obviously got a South Africa tour to lead up to it.

What's it, an eight-week tour or something?