Jojo Moyes

I have all these things to do.

That wasn't in her nature.

She just, that's exactly how she viewed it.

I have been so lucky.

And it was very liberating for all of us who loved her to hear it.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yes.

Oh, I have failed so many times.

I mean, the first really lucky thing that happened was when I was at university, I started work on the student paper and then I found out there was a local paper that might take, you know,

interns and so I popped in and I said look I can make tea and I can empty bins and I can photocopy for you and I think I just really pushed them until they agreed I was just this annoying person who would turn up a couple of times a week and then eventually they let me start writing pieces and I thought this is my thing and I remember walking into that tiny newsroom and everybody was working on typewriters with three sheets of carbon paper it was so old school and

But I just remember thinking, oh, here are my people.

And I had never felt at home anywhere until that point.

I didn't feel it at school.

I didn't feel it at work, in the pub.

I was always sort of trying to fit in, but I didn't feel like that was me.

I was trying on versions of myself.

And then suddenly in a newsroom, I thought, oh, okay, I can just relax here.

I can be who I am.

So from that point, I suddenly had...