Jude Sherry

Yeah, that is often, both for the council's own existing housing stock, that's what they have to do, as well as the

as the derelict properties that they CPO, which you can imagine going through that public process of tendering out the contract work

becomes a lot more time consuming for the councils.

And also it means that the private contractors have to make their profit as well.

So that increases the cost there as well.

I don't know, Matt, either, why it takes that long.

It's a ridiculous amount of time.

Within that time, the properties aren't secured.

As in the roof, there's still leaks getting in.

So the longer you leave it, and we've seen that with many properties up in Dublin and in Cork and other areas around the country, is that by the time they go through the CPO process...

And by the time they get ownership, then they find out, or by the time they go to do the work, could be years later, they find out the properties are in a worse state, which will cost them even more.

And then they end up having to look at buying.

Yeah, there's a number of other European countries, Matt, that have similar compulsory sales orders.

spain has it and england have it as well that if a property is particularly derelict and not safe the councils go in make it safe and they don't necessarily do any you know put new windows or make it any you know finish it to any decent level but they make it safe and then they put it up for auction and the councils keep the cost of making the building safe and whatever's left over goes to the owner then so that's

for homes both in England and Spain.

And then what Scotland have is they can pull through sales orders for kind of more commercial buildings, and that's more for community groups to buy commercial buildings for community uses.

And so it's slightly different to the homes, but it's still a similar approach for buildings that aren't being used, especially if you think heritage buildings and town centre buildings for community use could make a huge difference, ones that aren't suitable for converting into homes.

So both

But yeah, there's lots of examples across Europe of countries using this approach.