Katie Drummond

I mean, I think I read...

You take, what, like 40 minutes or an hour of material and you cut it down to eight or 10 minutes.

Like that's that's a that's a rigorous edit.

Do you ever get it to a place where the guest on the other side of it is not happy with what you put together?

More charming.

You've been at this a long time.

You've learned a lot.

You have a lot of sort of knowledge and expertise at this point.

And you've actually created a summer school, essentially, Dims Inc.

Academy.

Tell me how that actually works.

about maybe sort of growing out of that persona a little bit that you had developed many years ago.

I'm curious about what that means for you in your career and where you see yourself going next.

Thank God for that.

All right, another quick break here and we'll be back with our favorite game.

I would love to end with a little game that we play at the end of every episode.

I'm sure you love games.

You're going to love this.

It's called Control-Alt-Delete.

I want to know, what's a piece of technology you would love to control?