Ken Harbaugh

Not even shotguns.

And you'd be amazed at how much advice that I received to pass along to the Ukrainians on how to do their jobs better.

But the fact is you can't shoot these things down with shotguns because the kill envelope of a shotgun is within the kill radius of the warhead.

It's too late by the time they're within shotgun range.

drones that are about the size of a pigeon moving at 100 kilometers an hour with rifles, with AK-47s, because they have to hit them that far away.

And they literally have seconds in that last, the terminal phase of this drone's approach.

And because they're fiber-optically guided, there's no other way to detect them.

They emit no electromagnetic signature.

There's no

like, radio signal from the drone back to the operator.

You have to either see it or hear it and then engage it.

And it also means there's no way to jam it.

The only way to stop these drones from killing civilians in Herson is to put your best fighters

between the Russian lines and those civilian neighborhoods.

By the way, that is something the Russians would never do.

They would never put their best soldiers between the enemy and a civilian population.

But it is a testament to the value that the Ukrainians place on human life, that they're willing to risk their best people to do this.

Silk is a great way to describe it because if you look at some of these areas right up against the battle line, some of these populated areas that have seen these waves of fiber optic activity,

drone-controlled attacks, it looks like a web of spider silk has been laid over the entire neighborhood.

And the wires themselves are hair thin, but when you have thousands and in some cases many thousands of drones flying