Kristin

I name all my vehicles, but I have yet to name the internal model.

And it's so interesting.

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The different sectors that we work in in terms of critical infrastructure, a lot of those people are also system thinkers, but a lot of them are not as well.

I know like agriculture is a great example, definitely systems thinking.

You are dealing with systems, living systems that are constantly adapting and evolving in general.

I do think that like the water, because you're dealing with the water cycle, that's also because you're also dealing with weather in terms of the bugs.

I'm so excited about bugs and I'm so glad you brought this up.

Later on in the season...