Laura Rowe
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Podcast Appearances
Yeah, I'm the same. My family and friends have always been super supportive because it's been my absolute passion and joy throughout my career. But I've had similar experiences with not very nice colleagues in the wider sense of companies that I've worked for. I remember someone saying, all you do is sort of tippy tap on a keyboard. And it's not particularly sort of groundbreaking. But I always say I get the privilege of bringing joy to somebody's life, you know, three times a day if it's coming to visit the recipes that we're sharing. And I think that's a really special and privileged career to be able to do that.
Melissa ja Laura, miten sinÀ? Oliko niitÀ asioita, joita sinun oli nopeasti ymmÀrretty, ettÀ sinun pitÀisi oppia ruokaa ja ruokaa, jos olisit kirjoittanut siitÀ? KyllÀ, mielestÀni minulla on ollut kaksi kenttÀÀ minun karjani, joka on kirjoittaminen. Ja opit hyvin nopeasti, ettÀ se voi mennÀ vÀÀrin helposti, especially with baking and sweet things. It's a science, so you have to kind of like through a lot of trial and error to make sure you get it right.
Olen ollut monissa sopimuksissa, kuitenkaan omissa tai toisissa sopimuksissa, ja ne eivÀt todennÀköisesti toimia, ja sinun tÀytyy löytÀÀ nopeita ratkaisuja, koska aikaa on rahaa ja niin edelleen. Mutta sitten oikeastaan kirjoittamalla ruokaa. Luulen, ettÀ se on samanlaisia harjoituksia kuin jokainen muu kirjoittaminen tai jokainen kirjoittaminen. Kun aloitat, voit olla hieman kliiseistÀ tai kÀyttÀÀ asioita, joita muita ihmisiÀ ovat sanoneet 1000 kertaa ennen.
It's really about finding your own voice, and that definitely comes with time and experience. The more you do it, the easier it becomes.
Laura, kun editoitaisit jÀrjestelmÀn, mikÀ olisi tyypillinen viikko tai pÀivÀ? MikÀ oli työ? KyllÀ, melko erilaista Melissa. Yksi tÀrkeintÀ on, ettÀ ei kaksi pÀivÀÀ nÀyttÀisi samaa. Joten olisit edes rakentamassa podcastin yhden pÀivÀn tai menemÀllÀ ja yrittÀmÀllÀ uuden restaurantin ja ymmÀrtÀmÀllÀ uuden kuisin tai uuden trendin jÀrjestelmÀn tai ymmÀrtÀmÀllÀ uusia sÀÀntöjÀ.
Sitten voit yrittÀÀ nÀitÀ mahtavia innovaatioita ja ruokaproduktien kehittÀmistÀ, ja se tulee enemmÀn huolta. Sinulla on elementtejÀ, jotka ovat kreatiivisia, mielenkiintoisia, hauskoja ja pysyviÀ, ja sitten sinulla on asioita, jotka ovat enemmÀn komersiaalisia ja strategisia, ja se, ettÀ voit tehdÀ tarpeeksi rahaa, jotta voit jatkaa.
kertoa nÀitÀ mahtavia kertoja teidÀn yleisölle, joten se oli todennÀköisesti yhdistelmÀ siitÀ myös, kun olin magazine-editorissa, mutta paljon erittÀin hyviÀ asioita, joita me teimme. Yksi minun suositukseni oli, ettÀ meillÀ oli testikyky Olive & Delicious, ja sinulla oli mahtavia kÀsikirjoittajia, kuten Melissa, jotka tekevÀt mahtavia ruokaa koko pÀivÀnÀ, ja sinulla oli se, ettÀ menet ja katsot, ja olet, ettÀ se tekee tÀnÀÀn. Joten joo, se oli erittÀin hyvÀ. Onko siellÀ paljon perkeleitÀ työssÀ? Minusta ihmiset luulisivat, ettÀ se voi olla melko hienoa työtÀ.
I think that's the job of an editor as well, right? You definitely want to have an audience in mind. And I think, again, that's become sharper over the years of really understanding who you're talking to. As more data is available digitally. Exactly, right? They tell you through their behavior or they tell you through comments on social media or emails or however they choose to connect with you as a media brand.
Mutta sitten se on myös se, ettÀ antaa heille sitÀ, mitÀ he ovat kertomassa sinulle, mutta myös antaa heille sitÀ, mitÀ sinÀ ajattelet, ettÀ heidÀn haluaisivat myös. Mutta mielestÀni huomioiden asia on, ettÀ se liittyy ja sinulla on se yhteisö, joten aina on lensi, jossa voit kertoa kertoa, vaikka se ei ole kovin se, mitÀ sinÀ voisit olemaan ajatellut. KyllÀ.
There was a certain period, maybe about 10 years ago, where there was a real pendulum swing and everybody was very vocal about sustainability. Certainly in the UK and the brands that I was working across, we made real effort and vocal effort around sustainability. But I do agree, the sort of language in which we talk about it has changed. There's things like in recipes now, it's very rare that you'd put to use cling film or plastic wrap, single use plastic wrap. You would just say cover or wrap.
and sort of let people make their own choice around that. But I think most food writers that I know would always try and be sustainable in their choices, both using the right fish, using, like you say, Marlin, whole cans of things, whole jars of things so that you've not got odds and ends left. But I think we just don't try and sort of be preachy or shove it down people's throats. We just empower people to make great choices with the information that we've got.
Yeah, I agree. I think it sort of feeds through whether it's, you know, you see Google Trends spike because you've sort of mentioned a certain ingredient or a technique or whether you can see more social media videos being made of a thing that you've done. That's the really amazing thing is all of the platforms that we work across and the stories that we're telling, they are influencing and democratizing what people eat across the world, which is a really amazing thing.
There's also so many variables, right? Like you can test it in lots of different ovens at different temperatures. I do a lot of conversion between UK and US and, you know, the US have different oven types to UK or, you know, if you have a different humidity in your kitchen, there's so many variables for the home cook versus what you test for. So it is a bit scary. I think cookbooks are the most terrifying because you spend so much time on them. You set them out into the world and then you're terrified that there's something wrong with that printed thing that you can't understand.
KyllÀ, se on myös vaikeaa, koska olen sanonut tÀtÀ monille työntekijöille vuosien aikana, ettÀ sinÀ rakennat paljon uskontoa johonkin, joka tekee resiipiÀ, koska se ei ole vain aikaa, vaan myös rahaa, jonka on kÀsitellyt. Mutta sitten, kuten sanoit, olet mahdollisesti kÀsitellyt sen itselleen, mikÀ on todella tÀrkeÀÀ, mutta myös rakentujen kanssa, tai se voi olla ensimmÀinen pÀivÀ, tai se voi olla, you know, break-up, ettÀ yritÀt tehdÀ joku, joka tuntee paremmin, niin...
I think that's a really interesting question and the fact you sort of phrased about an audience and making money because they are not necessarily the same thing. It is a really challenging climate at the moment for food media brands full stop, not just print, I think for all food media brands.
When I first joined, I was saying to my bosses, there's this thing called Twitter and we need to be on it. And that was kind of the disruptor in my time and the internet as well. But now we've got AI, right? You can literally go into these chatbots and say, I want a recipe in the style of this chef, this food writer, this food media brand. I've got X, Y and Z in my fridge or my food cupboard. And make me a recipe and it will write you a recipe. That is disruptive to our industry.
There's also lots of different food writing across the board in print, in newsletters, across social media, across podcasts and videos. So it's tricky for print and it's definitely a declining market. But in the UK only a few weeks ago there was a really exciting trend.
So actual paper publications that you can hold in your hand. Actual paper, yeah, and gorgeous ones. And it was really well attended. And so I think...
There will be a market, but it's just changing. And what we considered to be a food magazine 15 years ago, 10 years ago, isn't what a great food magazine looks like now. But I love the rise of things like Substack, which is empowering both food media brands and creators to tell stories and connect with audiences and get paid for it. That's a site where you can basically just have your own blog or column and people can subscribe and you can earn that way.
Yeah, and I think there's all of these different platforms and ways to communicate with audiences are changing and finding different ways to make money and connect with that audience. Because it's kind of a dirty word in journalism that you have to make money, but if we don't have money, we can't continue to produce and create the content. So there has to be a balance. It's just whether people want to pay for it and where they want to pay for it.