Lewis Goodall

He could have said all of that, but he didn't.

And a result of basically not doing so, of simply talking in, frankly...

a deeply neoliberal way of basically just saying, we have to do this because business wants it, and if not, we'll be relegated from the Premier League of Nations.

Frankly, he sounded like a slightly more fogeyish Sunak or a slightly politer Camus Badenoch, and that has just pissed off a load of people in the Labour Party.

Which he doesn't really address.

Well, and that is an argument which does seem to be gaining some traction now that Ed Miliband is rather alienated from the prime minister.

Apparently, the prime minister is looking at the North Sea.

I'm sorry, I overspoke there.

But like, you know, but John, I suppose where I'll push back on you is to say, I think, you know, when I think about Tony Blair.

And his most successful period.

I think his most unsuccessful period politically is the period that he now regards at his best, which is basically late Blair, which is actually after he stopped winning elections, where I think he went, as you already said, into his masochistic phase where he basically starts saying, look, the public can like it or lump it, but this is what we're doing under all circumstances.

There is no coincidence.

That is precisely when Blair's power started to diminish.

And when I hear him talking about AI now, I mean, that bit in the essay, which I thought, to be honest, was just ridiculous, was when he said that what is coming in this technology revolution led by developments in AI, which will change everything.

I mean everything.

There is no point in debating whether this technological revolution is a good or bad thing.

Just know it's a thing.

In fact, it is the thing.

What on earth does that mean?

Well, because yes, but then the question about politics is how does it change it?