Mattha Busby

The drugs that these, you know, veterans are given to address their symptoms just often kind of get them addicted.

And I think that there's, you know, shifting sands here, and especially with the Make America Healthy movement, you know, there with Kennedy and all these maha mums, the mushroom mums behind them, there is a real fervour for change.

Yeah, I mean, advocates fought, you know, especially with RFK as health secretary, who's obviously super pro psychedelic therapy, that, you know, stuff would have happened earlier.

I mean, there was a piece in Politico that said a few weeks before the executive order, the psychedelic revolution that never was, which obviously hasn't aged very well.

But there's definitely been like a lot of discord between sort of MAHA and MAGA people, you know, a lot of MAGA people, you know, really not interested in furthering the cause of,

psychedelic therapy.

So, yeah, we kind of, in this really, really curious moment, Richard Nixon was the president that

you know, announced the war on drugs and put these psychedelics into schedule one.

And then it was Reagan's administration, I believe, that prohibited MDMA in the 80s.

Yeah, you just wonder what sort of ripples this will have for the rest of the world, really, because it's been an American-launched and led war on drugs.

But it broadly does look like the war on drugs is winding down significantly.

And this is, you know, another threshold moment to that.

I mean, it's a huge green light, right?

It's still very difficult to actually do psychedelic research quite often because of these legal constraints.

So once there is potentially an approval or two and a rescheduling, but that will also require the DEA, the Drug Enforcement Administration, to come on board.

And only just before the executive order came out, there was a letter released that showed they were kind of against it.

So there are moving parts here and it's kind of Trump almost sounding the starting gun or, you know, is certainly the biggest green light yet for a potential multi-billion dollar industry.

You know, the door has been pushed open far further than it ever has before, really.

Yeah, so it's unclear exactly when it was discovered.

There's a myth that it was a man and a woman hunted a porcupine and they cooked it into a stew and the man had gone to sleep and his wife tried it and she started hallucinating.