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Megan Williams

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Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

Yeah, it's been an unusually public rupture.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

Pope Leo has been a firm critic of the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

He's called for diplomacy and warned against the use of force.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

Really nothing out of the ordinary for a Catholic leader.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

But Trump hasn't liked it.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

And in April, he called the Pope weak and terrible on foreign policy.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

Then on Monday, Trump went further.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

He said the Pope was endangering a lot of Catholics by opposing the war.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

Now, Leo pushed back when speaking to reporters near Rome on Tuesday.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

He said the mission of the church is to preach peace and that the Catholic Church has spoken out for years against nuclear arms.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

So with this back and forth, Rubio's meeting with the Pope is really not a routine diplomatic visit.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

He has the awkward assignment of trying to smooth relations with the Vatican as Trump keeps picking fights with the Pope.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

The Pope is worried about Iran, but also about other issues in the Middle East.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

Here's Vatican expert Massimo Fagioli.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

So the Pope is worried about the Middle East, Israel and Lebanon, especially, says Fagioli, about the risks to the shrinking Christian communities in those countries.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

Now, Rubio has said he will discuss Cuba and religious freedom around the world, issues where the Vatican has really long played a key diplomatic role.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

But Rubio has a hard job.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

He has to show respect for the Pope while representing an administration whose leader has repeatedly attacked the Pope.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

And he has to avoid irritating the Vatican in ways Vice President J.D.

Up First from NPR
Trump's Iran Progress Claims, Oil Industry Profit From Iran War, Rubio Meets Pope Leo

Vance has by claiming Catholic teachings support the harsh crackdown on immigration and other things.

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