Michael B. Jordan

I don't want to laugh at television about his name.

He's going to give me a hard time now.

Lovely man.

We're sitting there, we're making this story, and we're realizing, oh, we're making it about a film group of people, like the father is the film director, navel-gazing, yes.

Shameful, isn't it?

So what we then try to do is to make it about family, make it about something that we really want to talk about, which is really how trauma travels through generation.

And I think the only way to start forgiving one's parents is to realize they were kids once, and what did they go through, and all those things.

And then we thought, oh, it's interesting, because in this family, the father is making a screenplay that he's offering his oldest daughter, played by Renata Reinsveig, because she's an actor, and she certainly don't want to work with him.

And then they invite this American actress into it, played by Elle Fanning, but she's playing the role of the daughter.

So that's the setup.

But what it's really about is all that stuff about parents and children that we don't really have language for.

So it was trying to get to family stuff through

the setup of a film family.

Instead of saying, ooh, film people are so interesting.

Of course we are, but shh.

Don't tell everybody that.

It's a movie about how do you communicate with your family.

It's tender.

It's loving.

What Marvel movie are you going to direct next?