Mike Nellis

So that is, I think the number one thing.

And I think

The second thing is the Democratic Party is super risk averse.

We're afraid of offending anybody.

We got to wait for a poll.

Like, you know, Sarah Lonwell was giving me shit on my show the other day because we were talking about how I was one of the Democratic consultants that was like begging Democrats to talk more about the Epstein files when they first tried to cover it up in the beginning.

And I was telling her, like, I was on conference calls all week going, what are you doing?

Like, this has real energy to it.

Like, get behind it.

This is a window in to start talking about what's going on with corruption and Trump.

And she was like, see, that's the problem right there.

Why are you ever on a conference call having to talk about that?

Like it should be so self-evident that your clients know what they stand for, that it's very easy to like shove the issues through that messaging box.

Right.

And so if you know what you're standing for, what you stand for, it's a lot easier for you to develop a message on what's happening in the news today.

And you see that with the shutdown right now.

The shutdown messaging is good.

It's probably like B minus, maybe B plus.

It's not A plus though.

Go watch AOC and Bernie Sanders video that they put out where they're walking down the street and they're talking about it.