Nate Sloan

And then, I'm kind of expecting that line again, but instead I get something new, something that expands the narrative, expands the world of the song.

It's all related.

Well, there's like maybe a textbook way to write a song, which is the chorus just repeats as is every time.

But something about Drops of Jupiter, the chorus evolves.

And then we get to the outro and we just have these wordless choruses, which I find- Na na na.

Na na na.

Some artists might have a negative relationship with a song of this success.

Maybe even a little resentment.

You know, I have to play this over and over again.

I'm trapped.

But I don't sense that.

I sense a real, that you have a real love for this song.

You're not resting on your laurels despite that success.

You've got- I want to arm wrestle you right now so bad.

That would be a first for the podcast.

I would lose, but it'd be a real doozy.

It might get a lot of views if we did that, but we'll keep it civil, I think.

Well, you know, I was well-trained, Pat.

Your new song is The Weeknd.

Yeah.