Pat Brisson

I mean, he's coached many greats, you know, so I do believe it was beneficial to see a different approach.

And to Gavin, I mean, unfortunately, fortunately, he may go through another five to six coaches in the NHL.

Who knows how it works, you know?

The lifespan of a coach now could be three years, four years becomes like...

So, so, um, you know, uh, and Dale is hard coach, but at the same time, he understands talent and he, he, uh, he, uh, I do believe it was extremely beneficial.

And we saw in the second half and, and, and, and guys done a great job too, you know, working with that and, and, and,

Again, the process is so important.

Going through these things, it's how you go through and what you get out of it.

Everything's an experience.

It's what you do with it.

And we do believe that Gav really benefited from his decisions.

And he did have a much better second half, you know.

And it's all credit to him.

And Penn State, they were fantastic.

The coaching staff were great to him and his teammates and all that.

It was a fantastic experience.

That's awesome.

I don't call it a trend.

I call it more of where the society is in general.

I mean, people, they're not afraid to express their opinions.