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Rory Sutherland

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Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

is much less creative and much more likely to lead to value destruction, including for the shareholders, than the pursuit of multiple objectives, the triangulation of multiple objectives, which is looking after your employees, looking after your shareholders, looking after your customers, and looking after the wider society. Okay?

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

is much less creative and much more likely to lead to value destruction, including for the shareholders, than the pursuit of multiple objectives, the triangulation of multiple objectives, which is looking after your employees, looking after your shareholders, looking after your customers, and looking after the wider society. Okay?

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

is much less creative and much more likely to lead to value destruction, including for the shareholders, than the pursuit of multiple objectives, the triangulation of multiple objectives, which is looking after your employees, looking after your shareholders, looking after your customers, and looking after the wider society. Okay?

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

So a multidimensional objective from a company will probably lead to a greater variety of behaviors and a greater level of creativity than a single-minded kind of reductionist objective like short-term shareholder value maximization.

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

So a multidimensional objective from a company will probably lead to a greater variety of behaviors and a greater level of creativity than a single-minded kind of reductionist objective like short-term shareholder value maximization.

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

So a multidimensional objective from a company will probably lead to a greater variety of behaviors and a greater level of creativity than a single-minded kind of reductionist objective like short-term shareholder value maximization.

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

And one of Kay's points, which he makes, is that if you look at the companies that have been kicking around in the Fortune 500 or the FTSE or whatever for a long, long time, It's Nestle, it's Unilever, it's Procter & Gamble, it's Reckitt, okay? It's companies which have a large marketing function which keeps them rooted in the real but changing world of what customers really want, okay?

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

And one of Kay's points, which he makes, is that if you look at the companies that have been kicking around in the Fortune 500 or the FTSE or whatever for a long, long time, It's Nestle, it's Unilever, it's Procter & Gamble, it's Reckitt, okay? It's companies which have a large marketing function which keeps them rooted in the real but changing world of what customers really want, okay?

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

And one of Kay's points, which he makes, is that if you look at the companies that have been kicking around in the Fortune 500 or the FTSE or whatever for a long, long time, It's Nestle, it's Unilever, it's Procter & Gamble, it's Reckitt, okay? It's companies which have a large marketing function which keeps them rooted in the real but changing world of what customers really want, okay?

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

And keeps them alert to effectively exploring new forms of value exchange which are ever-changing with technology, taste, fashion, etc., And those companies, interestingly, seem to have a much greater level of survival than companies that effectively develop some proxy measure of success other than the marketplace and seek to pursue that. Now, pursuing success in the marketplace is more difficult.

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

And keeps them alert to effectively exploring new forms of value exchange which are ever-changing with technology, taste, fashion, etc., And those companies, interestingly, seem to have a much greater level of survival than companies that effectively develop some proxy measure of success other than the marketplace and seek to pursue that. Now, pursuing success in the marketplace is more difficult.

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

And keeps them alert to effectively exploring new forms of value exchange which are ever-changing with technology, taste, fashion, etc., And those companies, interestingly, seem to have a much greater level of survival than companies that effectively develop some proxy measure of success other than the marketplace and seek to pursue that. Now, pursuing success in the marketplace is more difficult.

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

It's more painful. It involves you to deal in things that are highly probabilistic rather than deterministic. It's messy. But ultimately, in terms of resilience, it seems to keep companies on their game. in a way that businesses that are basically focused on what you might call internal benchmarking metrics can find themselves actually massively detached. Could you give an example? Well, okay.

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

It's more painful. It involves you to deal in things that are highly probabilistic rather than deterministic. It's messy. But ultimately, in terms of resilience, it seems to keep companies on their game. in a way that businesses that are basically focused on what you might call internal benchmarking metrics can find themselves actually massively detached. Could you give an example? Well, okay.

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

It's more painful. It involves you to deal in things that are highly probabilistic rather than deterministic. It's messy. But ultimately, in terms of resilience, it seems to keep companies on their game. in a way that businesses that are basically focused on what you might call internal benchmarking metrics can find themselves actually massively detached. Could you give an example? Well, okay.

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

If you pursue, yeah, I mean, if you pursue efficiency at the delivery of something, okay, you can end up very efficiently making something that people no longer want or where you're completely depositioned because effectively what you're making. So in some cases, for example, the rules of the game change.

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

If you pursue, yeah, I mean, if you pursue efficiency at the delivery of something, okay, you can end up very efficiently making something that people no longer want or where you're completely depositioned because effectively what you're making. So in some cases, for example, the rules of the game change.

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

If you pursue, yeah, I mean, if you pursue efficiency at the delivery of something, okay, you can end up very efficiently making something that people no longer want or where you're completely depositioned because effectively what you're making. So in some cases, for example, the rules of the game change.

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

Okay, so there will be a period where, for example, well, I'll give you a perfect example of this, okay? Which is an example I love to give. Which is, when I was a kid, okay, there were a few rich kids at school who'd been to Schiphol Airport. And they'd come back and go, it's incredible. Like, there's shops and everything you can buy.

Modern Wisdom
#904 - Rory Sutherland - The Secret Weapons Of Marketing Psychology

Okay, so there will be a period where, for example, well, I'll give you a perfect example of this, okay? Which is an example I love to give. Which is, when I was a kid, okay, there were a few rich kids at school who'd been to Schiphol Airport. And they'd come back and go, it's incredible. Like, there's shops and everything you can buy.