Ryan Grim

Thank you.

Thank you.

Even that wouldn't have been a sure bet.

But, quote, a primary and a one week shotgun primary, 107 days out from the election are not the same.

Once we were in it, we were always playing around the edges.

You also talk about the role that the unfolding genocide in Gaza played.

And we'll get to that toward the toward the end of this.

People are wondering if we're going to talk about that.

But so on this point, I thought that was really interesting.

It's and it.

It's like, obviously this isn't up to you whether or not there's a primary, whether or not Democrats nominate an economic populist who's running against Biden.

But I think for our viewers, it would be, it's gotta be interesting to hear somebody from your world come here and say, yeah, you guys are probably right tactically.

Like forget putting us, forget the substance and what's better for the world.

But like, so tell us why you think tactically, even from your position within the party,

an economic populist running against Biden would have been more successful.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

Here's the thing.

I think if Biden stays in and gets primaried, voters were behind Biden at that particular time.

And so that was sort of one of the things that made it challenging.

I think if Biden decides not to run... Although once he had to debate.